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Rock And Roll Hall Of Shame?

Posted Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:22pm PST by Paul Trynka in The MOJO Blog

Prophets in their own land miss out on the honors in rock music, just as they did in the Bible. And surely the most enraging example of this is The Stooges, who have now been turned down for the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame no less than seven times. The blow is all the more bitter in the light of the recent death of Ron Asheton, the man who carved out their sound, for there was no man more dedicated to the cause of rock 'n' roll than he.

As a Brit, this seems incomprehensible. From where I stand, the Stooges are self-evidently more important than many of those who have preceded them into the Hall Of Fame. As John Lennon once asked about fans who yearned for The Beatles to reform, what more could they do? How much more influential could a band be? And how much more could anyone suffer for their art?

Let us remember, when the Stooges blasted forth out of Detroit, they were praised by a few decadent souls, but mocked and vilified by the masses. When the Stooges crashed and burned in 1971 (and again in 1974) succumbing to a slow death by indifference, heroin and audience-thrown projectiles, some of the blame was their own. Yet much, if not all, of the self-destructiveness of the Stooges' last stand derived from a disconnect between the band's sense of their own importance, and that of the music industry that considered them irrelevant.

Thirty years on, it's obvious the Stooges were right, and the industry was wrong. From the Ramones, whose primary inspiration was a Stooges show at New York's Electric Circus, to the Sex Pistols, who covered No Fun, to Kurt Cobain, who so frequently inscribed the name of Raw Power in the list of favorite albums he confided to his journals, the Stooges have shaped today's musical landscape. The Stooges, and their acolytes, have helped the music business accumulate billions of dollars--which makes their rejection even more of an insult.

Why have the Stooges been rejected seven times? One of the criteria seems to be commercial success, yet over the last few years we have seen Iggy Pop, Ron and Scott Asheton, plus the estimable Mike Watt, whip huge audiences into a frenzy that few mainstream bands could match. No, the Stooges didn't sell masses of records. Nor did Little Richard compared to Pat Boone, yet which one sounds crucial today? Why should this band be rejected so many times in favor of bands like The Yardbirds or the Dave Clark Five--or this year's complement of Jeff Beck and Little Anthony & The Imperials? Fine acts as they are, neither can possibly claim to have changed the musical landscape as did the Stooges.

Of course, none of this would matter if Ron Asheton were still with us. This was a man steeped in the mythology of rock 'n' roll, who gave himself up to it. His untimely death over the holiday period robs him of the chance to enter an institution which celebrates it.

In the short term, there is some solace. Injustices have a way of bringing people together, and James Williamson, the man who replaced Ron as lead guitarist in the Stooges but who has hardly spoken to his ex-colleagues in the last 30 years, has made up with Iggy Pop. "If the Stooges do make it into the Hall of Fame, I want to play," he told me. "And I would like to do one of Ron's songs. As a tribute."

If the opportunity continues to elude Williamson, as it did Ron Asheton, it will be a reflection not on him, but on an institution that features "Rock And Roll" in its title, but clearly does not understand it.

Wave your freak flag at www.Mojo4music.com. Paul Trynka is the author of Iggy Pop: Open Up And Bleed.

24 Comments

1. DAVID T -
There are some bands who deserve their own wing at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but who are NOT inducted after YEARS of being eligable. The Stooges are a good example, but what about no-brainers like KISS and Alice Cooper (who still sell out concerts today).

2. __A_YAHOO_USER__ -
The whole Hall is stupid. Rock is a rebellion.

Also, lets keep punk bands away from such corporate events.


Bollocks to the RARHOF! Long live anarchy, as a punk would say.

3. Yahoo! Music User -
are you kidding me, KISS? they don't even play their instruments on some of the records

4. DUDE -
Maybe they should call it the "Corporate Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame"....

5. Yahoo! Music User -
I like the stooges

6. Missyloo -
Oh how sad twas' the day the Stooges got passed over for those clowns.
But on the bright side...
The Bouncing Souls are now eligible.
Now if they are not included at some point there WILL be a beat down!
How The Bouncing Souls did not change punk on a GLOBAL scale is beyond me...

7. Yahoo! Music User -
hall of fame can be sort of a joke...rock and roll (NOT RAP N ROLL)...which brings out the point of in whos eyes are they judging...surely not from a historical set or what a band has meant to rock....they put in rap artists into a rock hall where bands like RUSH or UFO are not even named is a real crime.....I know the stooges have contributed(i think they blow , but thats my opinion) but neverthe less RAP SHOULD NOT EVEN BE THOUGHT OF AS ROCK

8. vag -
the fact that potential inductees are required to PAY a wad of cash to be inducted speaks volumes of the Hall.....BUT, I must ask the author to dummy up, and respect the mastery that of which Jeff Beck has delivered for decades, and continues to deliver. Sometimes in this crazy hi-tech, gadgets up the yin-yang, who's selling what, who can't fit another cramped body in an arena full of screaming pre-teen girls worshipping a contemporary they won't remember by the time they get their driver's license, 'we' lose a little focus on who REALLY earned their kudo's through proper merit; it is a REAL, time-worn musician such as Mr. Beck who, in a perfect world, would be enshrined in the Hall for all the RIGHT reasons.

9. Yahoo! Music User -
Ewww most of all of the above mention suck so who cares if they played their own instruments anyway. And who is that butt ugly dude in the middle of the pic above? I always thought the Stones' Keith Richards won hands down for ugliest man on the planet but I think old Keith has some competition now. LOL

10. nickesse leroy -
je suis artiste Rapeur ,chanteur du cameroun.et je conpte donner le meilleur de moi pour eéalisée mon reve.

11. nickesse leroy -
aartiste rapeur et clash

12. TimborijeT -
The Stooges are in the base of rock and founders of "punk" before punk. One of the legends in rock! Long live Iggy!

13. lui v -
That is absolute bull [profane]..7 times!!...I mean, we can list off plenty of musicians and artists that aren't in the hall that deserve to be there..but Iggy and the stooges are just as mandatory as beatles, zepplin, the who... i'm so pissed off right now..isn't there something I can sign???haha

14. Yahoo! Music User -
Half of the artist in the Rock and Roll hall of fame aren't even good artist or not even rock. Many artists that deserve to be inducted aren't even nominees.

15. John -
Iggy deserves to be in the R&R Hall of Fame with both the Stooges and as a solo artist He was a pioneer in the face of R&R and deserves to be reconized as such Love him or hate him He changed the way music evolved in the 60*s and 70*s! God bless Ron Asheton and long live the Stooges

16. Yahoo! Music User -
THE STOOGES ROCK!!!

17. John -
The Stooges absolutely do NOT belong in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame. Most people cannot name one Stooges song outside of "Lust For Life".

That said, the Stooges probably will get in someday, because the idiots in charge of the Hall Of Shame just LOVE punk and new wave bands, but hate hard rock and prog. Come on, Kiss, Alice Cooper, Rush, Yes, Genesis, Heart and Deep Purple aren't in the HOF, but the Sex Pistols and Patti Smith are? Give me a break!

18. Yahoo! Music User -
Hello is there somebody in that Hall of Shame jury who has their minds, ears AND brains together? Do we really first all together need to write it down for you a 100 times.. or maybe do we need to spell it out for you again and again that The Stooges influenced almost EVERY rockband you probably know!!!!
Let me be clear, from whatever angle you look at Rock 'n' Roll... you can't pass The Stooges. Unless you don't understand what Rock 'n' Roll is.

19. Yahoo! Music User -
Ya know the funniest thing is that an English publication is the one making noise about this issue than the yellow journal that calls itself Rolling Stone. As another great band from the UK says.....Long Live Rock!!!

20. Yahoo! Music User -
the best of the best tend to get passed up on all the awards whether it be the grammies,hall of fame even an interview with a reputable mag like rolling stone,crawdaddy,creem etc. i agree its coorprate and lame hopefully these artist live long enough to see their glory and experience some of the accolades that go with it the tragedy is when these artists die never knowing the impact they had there are so many out there that go unrecognized janis joplin never was alive to receive an award and when she was alive she bought bessie smith(her big musical influence) a headstone for her grave cos she was laid to rest in an unmarked grave and deserved the respect of a musical legend so joplin used her own money to pay for it all i imagine if she did win an award she would give it away to someone before her that went unheralded,hopefully the stooges realize with all this controversy that they made an impact it might not pay the bills or put food on the table maybe a band or artist that is heavily influenced by them wil take care of that like janis did for bessie
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