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Ten Performers Who Were Never Called The “Voice Of A Generation”

Posted Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:12pm PST by Rob O'Connor in List Of The Day
When I read how Kanye West called himself the voice of a generation, I chuckled. It used to be other people called you the "voice of a generation" and then you got embarrassed and disappeared from the scene altogether. Because in the end, who would want to take credit for an entire generation? I refuse to take responsibility for myself and now I have to carry the load of millions of people I've never met?  Besides, what generation? I assume that the people attending a Pearl Jam concert are very different from those attending a Miley Cyrus show or a Black-Eyed Peas event.

There are a lot of people out there. Who can speak for them?

Even musicians who have universal clout--say, John Lennon--don't speak for us. Sure, we quote them in yearbooks and on greeting cards. "Life's what happens while you're waiting for the bus" or whatever.

And while certain performers seem more aware of social issues, it still doesn't make them a spokesperson. And if it does, it immediately makes their music worse. If Joe Strummer is now St. Joe Strummer, patron saint of all politically-correct punk rockers, then the outlaw power has been neutralized and it's time to go back and worship the Dead Boys instead.

That said, it's pretty obvious that performers from Kurt Cobain to Marvin Gaye, Public Enemy to Bob Marley, Biggie Smalls to U2 (notice how many die young!) would easily get someone's nod for speaking to and for a generation. Yet I think just about anyone could fit the bill.

So I decided to work up a list of ten performers who I've seen kidded for their sincerity, lampooned for their hamfistedness, goofed on for their one-hit wonder status...and I still prefer all of them to U2, who despite unifying Europe, bringing humanitarian aid to Africa and selling cellphones in the U.S, simply don't speak for me or for the 145 friends I have on Facebook who I now proudly speak for, whether they want me to or not.

John Denver: First off, sunshine on my shoulder certainly makes me happy and when it shines on the water, it looks lovely. So the man knew what he was talking about. He was a visionary of sorts. He saw the value in Colorado long before so many people started moving there. Yet, was it his sunny disposition? Did he make life seem too easy? Should he have brooded more? Sung about drug addiction? Chances are more people experience the joys of the sun on a regular basis than a canister full of crank. If not, start thinking about these people you're hanging around with.

Barry Manilow: The man was a showman! Who hasn't danced to "Mandy"? (I've got videos on some people). Who hasn't slurred the words to "Copacabana"? Who hasn't felt the exhilaration of "Looks Like We Made It" or whatever they call that song? Yet, again, another guy thrown on the scrapheap of history. Incredibly successful, but never taken seriously for entertaining millions. Maybe if he'd sung just one tune about Watergate!

Matchbox 20: I admit I can't name one of their songs offhand. But I know Rob Thomas has guested on other people's albums and that means he's got friends! So he's a social networker. And in this day and age that seems to be just as important as actually doing something.

Counting Crows: Nothing says "cutting edge" like Counting Crows, huh? Upon first arrival, Adam Duritz and his boys were being compared to the Band, Van Morrison and other staples of classic rock. Then something happened. Duritz started dating the cast of Friends. The era didn't embrace them and while they scored a few hits, they never got their seriousness taken seriously. Years of post-graduate Springsteen studies gone to waste.

M.C. Hammer: Of all the successful rappers in the world, M.C. Hammer gets to be the butt of the jokes. Sure, he isn't all that great, but there are plenty of averagely talented people in the music business who nobody jokes about. They just leave them be. There was a time when people actively sought out this man's look. I still do, apparently.

Cher: She's been around forever and I guess the infomercials didn't do much for her credibility, but the woman has been a trendsetter and a fashion plate for generations. I'd wager she's sung at least one line as profound as "I found it hard, it's hard to find, well, whatever, never mind." HELLO?

Lionel Richie: How come lite-rockers and romantic balladeers are never given the same respect as cranky hard rock guys and gangsta rappers? Is it the choice of sweaters? And why should a man be so judged? The message should be in the music, not on the fashion label. I guess Richie should've found something to protest.

Rush: Rush sang about society! They sang about outerspace, the future, geopolitics. Their worldview seems every bit as thought out, if not more so, than that of the Clash or U2. Is it because they're Canadian?

Twisted Sister: Bob Dylan was considered the voice of protest and he was asking questions like "How many roads does a man walk down before you call him a man?" (The answer is four, by the way). But Twisted Sister took it WAY further, letting parents know they wanted to rock and that they weren't going to take it. And for this, they get consigned to the cut out bins?

Enrique Iglesias: I guess some guys are just considered too good looking to be taken seriously. If you're too much of a sex symbol, you're just not allowed to say anything important or have what you say be taken as important. Enrique sings in the universal language of love, the language that transcends borders, generations, galaxies. But, alas, he is still just some Rodney Dangerfield looking for respect.

102 Comments

1. __A_YAHOO_USER__ -
...Rob...I'm confused. What is the intent of this list? To list artists who aren't "Voices of a Generation"? Isn't that most of them?

Your personal favorites? MC Hammer is among them? Didn't you name this man among "25Worst Rappers"?

You mention Rush, call them aware, yet call Peart one of the worst "Rock Lyricists"...

Is it for irony? How do you like Hammer more than U2? Is it to get hated? Since when was sampling [without changing the song at all] and adding stuff like "Stop. ITs hammer time!" count as "Average Talent"...

Matchbox 20? Why them? What makes them so special? What makes them all that different from legions of p-g Rockers [that get lumped into Trad rock categories]?


As a matter of fact, why did any of these get chosen? What was the selection process? Irony? Trying to tick people off? Do you really think Iglesias isn't a voice of a generation (go to South America, and you'll be told otherwise)?

=(

Come to think about it, why isn't Slayer a voice of a generation? Don't lovers want to get trapped in a "Rain in Blood"?

2. Chris the first -
I totally agree with D33PPURPLE, especially about the Slayer thing.

3. Keith C -
U2 sucks. Kanye West sucks more.

4. D-Pressed -
I think he's trying to highlight performers who were consistent but underappreciated.

5. Yahoo! Music User -
I find this offending. Pearl Jam is a great band, John Lennon was brilliant (how can you hate a man for wanting peace?) and Kurt Cobain was, in my opinion, one of the best (if not THE best) Musicians in the whole 90's decade. I'm sorry if I never really appreciated someone drag queens looked up to. Don't even bring the clash into this. The clash had more influence then Rush, and do you know why? Because the Clash was better.

6. Trin -
What about NIN?

7. __A_YAHOO_USER__ -
What about NIN?
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Rob said he wanted generally mocked people or artists on this list. NIN has had critical and commercial praise, and, only if you count Fred Durst's complaints about him, NIN does not qualify. But then again, if we count all of Dursts fights, everyone would qualify.


That said, I still found that the selection had any true direction...it just felt too random for its own sake. Besides Rush and Twisted Sister (to a much lesser extent) are now legends...taunted only by Rob and maybe even Pitchfork.

But I totally agree...choosing artists like these just makes it seem more like flamebaiting than an actual list.

8. Greg -
Is it me, or do most of the people posting here have no idea of what this list was supposed to be about?

Rob, your lists are funny and interesting. Keep writing them, regardless of the fact that apparently many of your readers can't read very well.

Some of us "get it."

9. DUDE -
Barry Manilow?...John Denver?...Come on people!...This is O'Connor's attempt to be "funny"...Or maybe everyone is missing Lefsetz!

10. Yahoo! Music User -
this was a stupid article... your list contained many people who can't even be considered artists or musicians

11. mike L -
u could write the same exact meaning for 100 same kink of get,people will ansewer anythingso if your beat doanother1 of the 1000---,mor lists ha

12. Peggy -
they were all good story tellers. you have to understand the adults in the 60s 70s . didnt allow a.m. radio to be waisted on , no good hippies.country, church music was what we were allowed to hear. john denver was a breath of fresh air.then we freaks found other stories with a rock an roll beat.

13. Cat lo-lo -
Yea Rob, this list is pretty pointless. Are you having a bad day?? Try decaf my friend. lol

14. Mike K: MCP President -
Commenting on #1. I know of plenty of people who could rap worse than MC Hammer. Let's see: Amy Poehler, Cloris Leachman, Chacarron, Miley Cyrus (she can sing really well, but can't rap if her life depended on it), Walter Payton (RIP), Les Miles, etc.

15. Gajjab -
Foo Fighters, The Voice of the Generation

16. tom -
Seek joy in what you give,
not what you get.

Self proclaimed Voice of a Generation types fail in this very simple test. The most dangerous place in the world to be, over the last 20 plus years, is between Bono and a news camera when he wants to show us how the non-multi million rock stars and sacrifice more to heal the planet. Sadly, he still hasn’t found what he is looking for.

A true Generational Voice takes you to that place and time when you hear them.

MC Hammer made rap safe for the middle class. Flashy, sure thing; style over talent, duh… this is the music business. When you hear U Can’t Touch This the clocks stop and it is 1989.

Cher is a Dancer for a Generation… Specifically divorced men on dance floors looking to shake their groove things. She may also be an icon for gay men who want to know what they would look like in a long black wig. Plus she sang I Got You Babe which is very catchy.

Twisted Sister is Face of MTV’s Jump the Shark moment. The point when video delivery of music slipped forever to a focus on “Act” vs. “Talent”.

Each generation has their own Dead Too Soon person. And since 1968 every generation has their own “Dude I used to get so stoned and listen to this guy” artist. These are never really Voice’s of a Generation, just mileposts on the way to detox.

Frank Sinatra was a Voice of a Generation. So was Captain Kangaroo. To bad they never did a duet.

Great List, great concept.

17. Ira -
Ok this list was stupid, but I guess you have to write something, But I can not believe that you can't name one song by Matchobox 20 really, heres a few 3am, disease, unwell.
Matchbox 20 is awesome!

18. tom -
Matchbox 20? Are they as good as the Dave Clark 5?

19. Yahoo! Music User -
no they;re not.

20. DUDE -
Matchbox 20?...Are they as good as The Tijuana Brass?
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